Let’s Talk Books With Amy From Lost In A Good Book

The darling Jess over at The Never Ending Bookshelf has interviewed me for her Let’s Talk Books feature. While you’re there check out the rest of her awesome posts!

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Today I’m pretty excited to be hosting this feature with a good friend and fellow blogger of mine, Amy from Lost In A Good Book. Even more so, since Amy was one of the first people I talked about this feature with, so to be able to feature her through it feels a little bit special 🙂

What are you currently reading?

Nocturnes by John Connolly. I am also reading Sherlock Holmes but that’s more intermittently when I am out and about or when I haven’t got another book with me.

What’s the last book you brought?

Let it Snow by John Green, Maureen Johnson and Lauren Myracle

Do you prefer to read books in print or electronically?

Print, I will read electronically if that’s the only option, or if it is easier at the time, but I am definitely a print person. I find I don’t know what to…

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Runaway Joe by David Hight

Published: February 8th, 2014
Goodreads badgePublisher: Self Published
Format: Ebook
Genre: Literary Fiction
★   ★   ★  – 3 Stars

Note: I was asked for a review by the author

Runaway Joe is the story of a young drifter who has isolated himself from the rest of humanity, both physically and emotionally. Until in the summer of 1972, he meets an exceptional young woman, who introduces him to the magic and power of theatre, taking him on a journey through his own mind, and healing his spirit in the process. 
There’s a huge cast of characters that revolve around Joe’s story, and they’ll guide you through tales that run the gamut of human emotion and ethics.
 
Tragedy and sorrow, as well as triumph and joy are well represented. Grace and elegance, compassion and courtesy are there too. But it’s not all flowers and sunshine, there’s despair so deep, it’s crippling, there is maliciousness, manipulation, unconscionable villainy and horrifying insanity.
 

 

The story is about Joe, Vietnam Vet, now a wanderer who sells arrowheads and artifacts he finds in his travels. We’re introduced to Joe as he is heading to the east coast of America, hoping to arrive alongside a mystery letter he has mailed. Through the early chapters we grow to understand Joe through his reflections and flashbacks on his father and his childhood and we begin to understand who he is and why he is in the situation he’s in. These are very powerful chapters I felt, as they show the relationship and impact a parent can have on their child, as well as the lessons that stay with them years later.

Understanding who Joe is entirely is revealed in snippets as he chats to people who offer him a lift or through further reflections, flashbacks, and conversations sparked by events around him. The types of people and the conversations that happen with those who offer Joe a lift are certainly interesting; some people are very open in discussing their entire lives, while others are a key reason why no one should ever hitchhike. Ever.

Writing about the past is no doubt a hard task, trying to write about an era that has already happened with the knowledge and history of the years afterwards influencing how something is written. The social changes and opinions of the present day are established and by talking about the past the tendency to add a philosophical and prophetic tone to the narrative is tempting and it can also make it appear too reflective.

From early on there are many philosophical discussions and moments with characters, between Joe and his father, with Joe and strangers who offers him lifts, and eventually between Joe, Tom, and Laura, a father and daughter he gets to know after arriving in a small town. These discussions were an interesting aspect, for some characters it suited the context and worked well, while others seems out of place, either because of the character speaking or the context.

Whether it is the 70s setting, the United States location, or the literary fiction genre, I found the dialogue on occasion slightly tedious. I thought that sometimes the characters were saying more things than were necessary and occasionally it sounded out of character or unnatural as a realistic conversational tone.  Character conversations often sound like narrative rather than believable conversation, especially when it does not always uphold this tone throughout. In doing so it makes the characters seem more than what they are portrayed to be, and when it returns to normal conversation it reads as stilted, I never got comfortable with the conversation tone that was depicted, no matter how casual it was intended to sound. I will admit though that like the philosophical discussions, these in-depth and detailed long conversations worked with some people and scenes and not with others.

Joe is usually very reserved but speaks with experience from what he has seen, and on occasion with an acceptable ignorance, Tom on the other hand speaks in a way that I thought didn’t suit his nature, for a man who holds many jobs in a small town he was often preachy and spoke like someone who knew everything about the world. Though being Police Chief, Judge, as well as running a farm could be explained for Tom’s manner, seeing what he does and having age and experience on his side, but with an air of judgement in his subtle lectures to Joe it always felt slightly patronising.

This highly philosophical and in-depth style of conversation worked well for Tom’s daughter Laura though. I saw her as a girl who was very talkative and passionate, very much the philosophical 70s girl who was going to university to be a playwright and actor and was going to be a star. After awhile the intense dialogue and philosophy lessens and conversations become slightly more natural though remain occasionally stiff and stilted. I never felt entirely convinced that there was a casual nature in the conversations but this perhaps could just be a result of genre.

The plot covers a short space of time, slightly longer if you included the extensive flashback in the middle, and in this space of time the development and evolution of Joe’s character is evident. Under the guise of Laura producing her play for the town we see changes in Joe, influenced by the theatre and the lessons learnt through Tom’s guidance and see him on the verge of becoming the man we are greeted with in the opening pages. He is a seemingly calm person but there is a darkness about him that gets him into trouble and as we see him change there are no quick solutions but an eagerness to try and redemption is clearly visible.

With the understanding this is a literary fiction book, which of course comes with certain tropes and expectations, some of these were a bit too prominent I found. In terms of narrative there was a lot of description, not even necessarily about certain people and their clothes which is common, but more in terms of actions. Every action was mentioned, often in extreme detail, and what could be told in a sentence was dragged out, almost tediously sometimes.

One aspect I found interesting was Laura’s play within the story. I find it rather commendable when authors include other unrelated stories within their stories, the act of creating not one workable story but another entirely different one within it is no doubt a challenge. They are also interesting to assess for quality, is it based on how good the reader thinks it is, or as we supposed to be influenced by how it is received by other characters in the book? Either way, the use of the play was a great marker as it allowed a lot of events and character developments on all sides to stem from this one event.

Overall I enjoyed the story. I understand the intention Hight was going for and the nature of the message that was trying to be conveyed, and in some respects I feel these were achieved, but overshadowed perhaps by difficult dialogue expression, over description, and maybe too little plot expansion, and quick fixes and explanations in some cases.

An Australian Short Story by Ryan O’Neill

Published: October 2012
Publisher: The Lifted Brow
Format: Online
Genre: Short story
★   ★   ★   ★   ★  – 5 Stars

I love Ryan O’Neill’s approach to writing stories and this short story is no exception. An Australian Short Story is compiled entirely of lines from other stories, 149 to be exact, and all Australian authors and poets with works ranging from 1850 to 2011. The idea a story could be created with snippets and lines from others is one that seems so simple and yet sounds highly complicated all at the same time. The effort and research that would have gone into this is certainly admirable and at the end of it it is actually quite a good narrative.

The story, which first appeared in Issue 14 of the Lifted Brow, is of a husband and wife on their property, a writer without words to write, a frustrated wife, and a relationship that neither is committed to admitting out loud isn’t going very well.

Like O’Neill’s other short stories a lot is told in a short space, and a marriage, a life, and a yearning is captured well within these borrowed words. The story flows seamlessly and if it were not for the citations you would not know that this wasn’t a pure piece of original fiction. The works O’Neill draws from are vast, with Henry Lawson, Peter Carey, Amanda Lohrey, and Patrick White being just a few.

As wonderful as this sampled story is though, it is highly perplexing. Where I would normally commend O’Neill on the excellent image provoking description of a writing desk, or that eloquent and captivating description of wine, or imagery of a disintegrating jacaranda, I find myself commending Christina Stead, Damien Broderick, and A.G. McNeil instead.

Do I adjust this by saying I commend him on his choice of words, that certainly can mean a few things. And I think there needs to be a commendation about this. The way O’Neill arranges his narrative is one that engages you and makes you feel a sense of pity for those involved and the lives they choose to live. As you read you don’t know they aren’t original lines, they are certainly original moments and original scenes, and once you’ve read the story you are then able to return and admire the effort in construction. There is however one line in there sampled from O’Neill’s Flinch which was a particularly fine sentence, so perhaps only 148 works are truly borrowed from.

Avid fans of the sampled works may one or two familiar lines, but what O’Neill has managed to select are in the majority of a combination of nondescript, common, and seemingly ordinary sentences, and yet has managed to weave a telling story as a result. Personally I just knew that that specific “Yes” was from Morris Lurie’s 1979 Running Nicely even before I looked, you could just tell.

An Australian Short Story is yet another example of O’Neill’s marvellous story telling ability and capturing moments in time with skill, creativity, and unique characters.

 

You can read the story on The Lifted Brow website

World Poetry Day with Jack Prelutsky and Lewis Carroll

Today is World Poetry Day and I wasn’t going to post something, but I’ve been inspired by Allvce over at What I Like…& Why You Should Too who posted her favourite Emily Dickinson poem on her Facebook page so I’ve decided to share with you two of my favourite poems. I don’t read a lot of poetry so I am sure there are much grander poems out there, but these are the ones I love.

The first is Today is Very Boring by Jack Prelutsky. I first heard this poem in a 1997 episode of Arthur. In the episode called “I’m A Poet“, Fern challenges everyone to enter a poetry contest judged by poet Jack Prelutsky, and anyone who doesn’t win has to join the Poetry Club for a whole year. Being 9 I hadn’t heard of Jack Prelutsky, being 9 I couldn’t pronounce Jack Prelutsky, but I loved his poem. I can’t find the full episode but here is the clip of him reading the poem on Arthur. Arthur often has famous people on the show, Neil Gaiman was there (who could forget the grand line “Neil Gaiman what are you doing in my falafel), as well Art Garfunkel and many others (check out the buzzfeed list), but I always remembered this poem from Prelutsky, even if I have never looked up any more of his work since, may need to change that.


Today is very boring.

it’s a very boring day,
there is nothing to much to look at,
there is nothing much to say,
there’s a peacock on my sneakers,
there’s a penguin on my head,
there’s a dormouse on my doorstep,
I am going back to bed.

 Today is very boring,
it is boring through and through,
there is absolutely nothing
that I think I want to do,
I see giants riding rhinos,
and an ogre with a sword,
there’s a dragon blowing smoke rings,
I am positively bored.

 Today is very boring,
I can hardly help but yawn,
there’s a flying saucer landing
in the middle of my lawn,
a volcano just erupted
less than half a mile away,
and I think I felt an earthquake,
it’s a very boring day.

My favourite favourite poem has to be The Walrus and the Carpenter by Lewis Carroll. I mentioned in my Through the Looking Glass review that I fell in love with this through the Harriet the Spy movie as a kid and I have only grown to love it more and more.

The sun was shining on the sea,
Shining with all his might:
He did his very best to make
The billows smooth and bright–
And this was odd, because it was
The middle of the night.

The moon was shining sulkily,
Because she thought the sun
Had got no business to be there
After the day was done–
“It’s very rude of him,” she said,
“To come and spoil the fun!”

The sea was wet as wet could be,
The sands were dry as dry.
You could not see a cloud, because
No cloud was in the sky:
No birds were flying overhead–
There were no birds to fly.

The Walrus and the Carpenter
Were walking close at hand;
They wept like anything to see
Such quantities of sand:
“If this were only cleared away,”
They said, “it would be grand!”

“If seven maids with seven mops
Swept it for half a year.
Do you suppose,” the Walrus said,
“That they could get it clear?”
“I doubt it,” said the Carpenter,
And shed a bitter tear.

“O Oysters, come and walk with us!”
The Walrus did beseech.
“A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
Along the briny beach:
We cannot do with more than four,
To give a hand to each.”

The eldest Oyster looked at him,
But never a word he said:
The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
And shook his heavy head–
Meaning to say he did not choose
To leave the oyster-bed.

But four young Oysters hurried up,
All eager for the treat:
Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
Their shoes were clean and neat–
And this was odd, because, you know,
They hadn’t any feet.

Four other Oysters followed them,
And yet another four;
And thick and fast they came at last,
And more, and more, and more–
All hopping through the frothy waves,
And scrambling to the shore.

The Walrus and the Carpenter
Walked on a mile or so,
And then they rested on a rock
Conveniently low:
And all the little Oysters stood
And waited in a row.

“The time has come,” the Walrus said,
“To talk of many things:
Of shoes–and ships–and sealing-wax–
Of cabbages–and kings–
And why the sea is boiling hot–
And whether pigs have wings.”

“But wait a bit,” the Oysters cried,
“Before we have our chat;
For some of us are out of breath,
And all of us are fat!”
“No hurry!” said the Carpenter.
They thanked him much for that.

“A loaf of bread,” the Walrus said,
“Is what we chiefly need:
Pepper and vinegar besides
Are very good indeed–
Now if you’re ready, Oysters dear,
We can begin to feed.”

“But not on us!” the Oysters cried,
Turning a little blue.
“After such kindness, that would be
A dismal thing to do!”
“The night is fine,” the Walrus said.
“Do you admire the view?

“It was so kind of you to come!
And you are very nice!”
The Carpenter said nothing but
“Cut us another slice:
I wish you were not quite so deaf–
I’ve had to ask you twice!”

“It seems a shame,” the Walrus said,
“To play them such a trick,
After we’ve brought them out so far,
And made them trot so quick!”
The Carpenter said nothing but
“The butter’s spread too thick!”

“I weep for you,” the Walrus said:
“I deeply sympathize.”
With sobs and tears he sorted out
Those of the largest size,
Holding his pocket-handkerchief
Before his streaming eyes.

“O Oysters,” said the Carpenter,
“You’ve had a pleasant run!
Shall we be trotting home again?’
But answer came there none–
And this was scarcely odd, because
They’d eaten every one.

So they’re my favourite poems, enjoy World Poetry Day and read something spectacular!

Tiddas Talking: Good friends and writers Anita Heiss and Lisa Heidke in conversation

This afternoon I went to the wonderful author event at Charlestown Library with Anita Heiss and Lisa Heidke who were talking about writing for women and the importance and joys of friendship. Anita Heiss, author of the new release Tiddas as well as Avoiding Mr Right and  Not Meeting Mr Right teamed up with fellow author and friend Lisa Heidke, author of Stella Makes Good, Claudia’s Big Break , and What Kate Did. 

Lisa Heidke

I will admit I have not read a lot/any “Chick Lit” but I am starting to, I had read about Lisa and Anita’s books though and they grabbed by attention, and having just purchased one of each I am looking forward to diving in. I grew more eager the longer I listened to them chat and I especially liked that Anita’s were summed up as “social justice, Australian national identity, in the friendship guise”.

Even before the pair started to discuss their books it was wonderful listening to the friendly banter and jesting between them. I saw a few similarities with myself and friends, and I’m looking forward to still acting like that and being that close years down the track.

Lisa started the conversation talking about Anita and her work with themes like social justice, the human condition, women, friendship and relationships in her books, as well as a few interesting opening scenes and passages from both their books. This of course resulted in the question being raised of the amount of research that is done. This was something I have always thought about, you can look at books like Kate Forsyth’s Bitter Greens which obviously has been researched over many years, but then there are others that you just can’t tell whether anything was researched or not. What is classed as research anyway? Studying facts and history to make things correct, or just visiting a certain location to get an insight into where you characters are walking and living. Everything and anything can be research if you want it to be.

Anita raised the question of how important research was in writing. She explained how she does a lot of research, often writing snippets and scenes along the way meaning that when a scene of location is needed later on she has one ready to go. The other thing she does is visit locations where she sets her stories and tries to work out what her characters would do/say if they were there. I found this approach interesting, I’ve always thought about and written scenes based on what I have seen/experienced/imagined, but never really thought about how my characters would interact in said location. I’ve just put the character in the location without really putting them in the location (does that make as much sense as I think it does?).

This of course led to the plotter vs pantser discussion. With Lisa a pantser and Anita a plotter it was a great insight to see how both sides work. For those who don’t know, a plotter is someone who basically writes out an outline and knows exactly what they’re writing about before it is written, a pantser on the other hand is someone who ‘writes by the seat of their pants’, so no plan, no outline, just writing and seeing what happens. These are basic explanations and there would be varying degrees I would assume, I myself am mainly a plotter but have been known to merge into a pantser in some moments.

Anita Heiss

As a self confessed panster, Lisa starts her story with no prior research, just a character and an idea and starts writing from there. She did admit though once a first draft is done, she will return and add in research to make sure her facts are correct and flesh out any sagging scenes. An advantage she mentioned was that it enabled you to add scenes as you wish, only needing to add hints and foreshadowing in earlier scenes if need be. The process of not knowing was one that works well for Lisa, the spontaneity is something that can help develop idea, though it can lead to long drafts and many tangents that may need to be reigned in. Anita on the other side said she does not start unless everything is planned out, and breaks down her story like one would an essay plan. Breaking it down into chapters and looking at what’s the weather? Who are the characters? Where are they going? Then major plot points and dramas can be woven through. The “map it out – research it – write it” approach.

A very interesting turn was when the discussion turned to reviews and whether they get noticed. A wonderful quote from Anita was that she “writes for readers not newspapers”, getting multiple reviews on GoodReads for example was more important than having one being published in a big newspaper.  The question of “who do you write for?” pops up a lot in author talks and I never tire of the answers. Anita said that she writes for herself, kind of, but she also writes for people like her. Having been unable to read stories about herself or anything Aboriginal in a contemporary setting, she set out to write one instead. I’m not sure if this was the quote you were thinking of Anita, and may have credited to Maya Angelo, but Toni Morrison said “If there’s a book that you want to read, but it hasn’t been written yet, then you must write it.” Either that or option 2 is Carol Shields who said, “Write the book you want to read, the one you cannot find.”

I liked Lisa’s answer, Lisa writes for herself. After realising you cannot write a book for other people to suit what needs you think they want, she asked herself “what do I like to read?” and started from there. Women overcoming adversity, women like her, women with problems, teenagers, aging parents, infidelity, real life and a hopeful ending. The worst thing, Lisa says, is trying to write “the next big thing” because no one knows what that is going to be so you may as well enjoy writing what you like and not worry.

The other discussion point was about honesty and sparked the discussion not just about honesty in books but honesty as a person. The older we get it seems the more honest we become, especially with friendships. Blow ups are just a “small drop in the bucket of friendship”, this is something I think more people need to remember. The relationships in your 20s, 30s, and 40s are all different and lasting friendships are about more than one fight. As Anita noted, when you are older, your core group of friends are people who don’t judge, and are people you can be honest with and feel safe, where you can disagree but keep the friendship.

There was a whole lot more discussed that was not only excellent advice but allowed a small peek inside the mind of a writer and where inspiration and problems can lie, not just in narrative but ethical and legal matters as well. I won’t go on forever because as much as I’d like to discuss the entire session I won’t, but I will say that there were some wonderful lessons and messages to take from the hour long talk. A few great ones were:

Books are a very gentle way to learn…a safe way [for people] to learn or engage, by themselves.”

We’ve more in common as women than differences. All feel the same thing – it’s not about socio economics it’s about being human beings, about being women. Instead of sitting on the bus looking at someone thinking about differences, think about the sames.”

And one of my favourites, “Write for people to think about how their behaviour impacts other people.”

Even among all the technical writing talk, the entire talk demonstrated just how valuable friendships can be, in fiction and otherwise. There is a lot of power in good friendships and banding women together as one.

I look forward to reading more from these great authors and women and know I have come away with a few more writing lessons and life lessons as a result of my afternoon.

All Your Bits and Pieces Needs
Lisa Heidke website
Lisa Heidke – Upcoming Events
Lisa on Goodreads

Anita Heiss website
Anita Heiss – Upcoming appearances
Anita on Goodreads

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